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PostSubject: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:01 pm

SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law


PUTATAN, Oct 10, 2010: Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) pledged to bring the Federal Government and the British Government to the Court for dishonouring the Malaysia Agreement once getting the mandate from the people.

President Datuk Seri Panglima Yong Teck Lee said that among others, the clear breach of agreement was on the Borneonisation of the federal public service in Sabah in pursuant to the Malaysia Agreement that was signed in London on 9 July, 1963.

He said SAPP's legal team had studied the matter for quite a long time and after researching the speeches of leaders from all parties and relevant documents, especially the agreement's contents itself they opined that the Malaysia Agreement was enforceable in the court of law.

"The promise of Borneonisation of the public service is very well documented in the many memoranda submitted by the leaders of North Borneo and Sarawak, in the Memorandum of the Malaysia Solidarity Consultative Committee, the Cobbold Report, the Inter-Governmental Report...


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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:04 pm

"Finally, it became a legally binding enforceable right of Sabah and Sarawak in the Malaysia Agreement," he said when opening the annual general meeting for branches in SAPP Petagas CLC in Kg Muhibbah, Friday. "Many Malaysians do not realise that Malaysia itself is a creation of the Malaysia Agreement signed in London on July 9, 1963.

The parties to this international treaty were the United Kingdom, Federation of Malaya, Singapore, Sarawak and North Borneo (now Sabah)," he said.

He said the Agreement contained 10 articles, which are clear and easy to understand. On the other hand, everybody knew that those promises stipulated in the Agreement had been broken by both the Malayan and British governments.

"Until now, 47 years later, all we have been hearing are empty promises. It is no wonder that even the Federal Minister of Information found it so casual to 're-assure' Sabah on the Borneonisation of the public service during the last Malaysia Day," he said.

On this note, he said SAPP was not talking about the Armed Forces and security personnel, medical, scientific other high-tech services that Sabah needs, but tens of thousands of officers and clerical staff in many federal departments and agencies in Sabah.

"It is as though there no capable Sabahans," he said, citing the posting of 76 computer technicians to Sabah schools in April which was objected by the teachers unions in the State. "The Education Minister does not even bother to explain.

It is now learnt that more than 400 computer technicians are being posted to various schools in Sabah with cost of living and transport allowances, taking up the teachers' quarters and depriving local staff. Is this job too difficult for Sabahans?" he asked.

Yong claimed that previous employment and promotions of locals had been reversed with a stroke of the pen and that recently at the mini Putrajaya (Sabah Federal Administrative Complex) even clerks and drivers were sent from Peninsular Malaysia.

"We want to make it clear that Malaysians in Sabah, known as Sabahans, have nothing against our fellows Malaysians from the Peninsula.

We share their predicament caused by the failure of the BN-Umno government in the country. "But, we worry also about the job opportunities of young Sabahans, increasing numbers of whom face a bleak future. If even computer technician are posted from the peninsular what hope do the locals have?" he asked. Yong said as true Malaysians, the people of Sabah sincerely believe that the Federal Government must honour the letter and spirit of the 1963 Malaysia Agreement, including the promise of Borneonisation of the public service.

The Inter-Governmental Report of 27 February, 1963 had referred to the famous Cobbold Report dated 21 June, 1962, which in Chapter 4, Para 148 (i) of the Recommendations of the Cobbold Commission clearly stated that the Borneonisation of the public services should proceed as quickly as possible, he said.

He said Article VIII of the Agreement stipulated that "the Governments of Malaya, North Borneo and Sarawak will take such legislative, executive or other action as may be required to implement the assurances, undertakings and recommendations in Chapter 3 of, and Annexes A and B to, the Report of the Inter-Governmental Committee signed on 27 February 1963, is so far as they are not implemented by express provision of the Constitution of Malaysia".

Yong said Lord Cobbold had recommended that "the Federal Services in the Borneo territories should be regionalised and officers should be appointed in the territories with sufficient authority to deal with local matters. I add a personal recommendation that, when expatriate officers are no longer needed for these posts, they should normally be filled by officers from the Borneo territories". "But where are all these promises?" he asked.

Based on all these documents and evidence, it is clear that the people of Sabah can sue those involved in the Malaysia Agreement based on this legal binding commitment, he said.

Nonetheless, Yong said legally the only party that can represent the people of Sabah in the litigation is the State Government, while others even SAPP in its present state now doesn't have enough locus standi to do so because they are not the State Government.

"So, I would like to state here that once SAPP form the new State Government after the 13th General Election, we will issue a six-month notice to the Federal Government to implement Borneonisation as agreed upon in the Malaysia Agreement 47 years ago," he said.

Yong said that if after six months the Federal Government failed to make any substantial change, then the SAPP State Government would seek legal recourse.

"What is there to discuss? It is not like the Agreement was only signed today but it has already been for 47 years, so what else is there to negotiate," he said to thunderous applause. To internationalise the matter, he said SAPP would go to London where the treaty was signed and sealed and take similar action against the British Government.

"They (British government) have to be responsible for what they have done," he said.

In fact, the transfer of sovereignty of Sabah from the United Kingdom to Kuala Lumpur in Article IV of the Malaysia Agreement included the condition that such transfer of sovereignty is in accordance with the Malaysia Agreement and the constitutional instruments that form part of the Agreement, he said.

Yong told the delegates here that the local leaders in the State Cabinet, who most of them are lawyers knew about this.

"But, they will not dare to voice it out because they are worried of losing their positions, projects and so on ... they are answerable to Kuala Lumpur but for SAPP, no. We want an autonomous State Government that answers to no one but the people of Sabah," he said.

The former Chief Minister pointed to the foresight of Lord Cobbold who in his words in the report said: "It is a necessary condition that, from the outset, Malaysia should be regarded by all concerned as an association of partners, combining in the common interest to create a new nation but retaining their own individualities. If any idea were to take root that Malaysia would involve a "take-over" of the Borneo territories by the Federation of Malaya and the submersion of individualities of North Borneo and Sarawak, Malaysia would not, in my judgement, be generally acceptable or successful."

Also on hand were Deputy President, Datuk Liew Teck Chan, former Finance Minister, Datuk Mohd Noor Mansoor, vice president, Amde Sidek, Wanita Chief, Melanie Chia, Youth Chief, Edward Dagul, Information Chief, Chong Pit Fah and supreme council members as well as the candidates for the upcoming SAPP party election.
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:09 am

"So, I would like to state here that once SAPP form the new State Government after the 13th General Election, we will issue a six-month notice to the Federal Government to implement Borneonisation as agreed upon in the Malaysia Agreement 47 years ago," he said.

Yong said that if after six months the Federal Government failed to make any substantial change, then the SAPP State Government would seek legal recourse.


Cakap senang lah.. tapi selepas manang pilihanraya (kalau manang la).. indada suda semua itu.
Mau take legal action against boritis? court mana dia guna utk bisara karajaan boritis? the Hague di balanda kah? ... terover sudah pulitik dia ini.. Laughing Sedap didengar la..dan kalau dibuat butul2 sangat bagus utk rakyat sabah..tp tak semudah itu.. inda salah bah kalau tarai mr Yong.. tapi kau mesti pandai kasi pulitik semua tu penyukung tagar amino termasuk pti yg parnah undi kau...
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:18 pm

nah, ari ni di newspaper si patrik sindu masuk galanggang..... dia bilang bulan 11 dapan dia mo pigi britan pasal ni agrimen malasia..... sdh 47 taun ini malaya inda ikut tu agrimen..... yb2 bn bulum ada kumin apa2......
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:11 pm

finally there's light at the end of the tunnel...... anyway, hope these not merely politic but to be the struggle of pure sabahans...
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:36 am

harap2 butul2 menjadi. jgn hangat2 taie ayam suda...
btw, ratu ingland yg sikarangkah yg bertaktha waktu penubuhan malaysia?
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:21 pm

itu sia inda tau, mangkali queen yg sikarang ni anak dia sdh..... tp itu agrimen kakal walou betukar raja...... masam tu hungkung britsih siwa dulu 100 taun, bila abis 100 taun, sina ambil balik.....
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:35 pm

mustahil juga ratu inglond talampau panjang umur kan..sadangkan tunku, rajak, hussin, sudah maninggal.
Tapi kan sakap2 org...boritis cuma tunggu 25 taun saja org sabah buat kumpilin jika malaya inda bagus sama sabah.. lapas 25 taun boritis inda mau tau suda..lapas tangan begitu lah...
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:36 pm

indatau pula begitu.....
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:28 am

saya kepikiran juga. kalau org sabah buli buat kumpilin/bantahan terhadap layanan malaya kapada boritis, kenapa inda buat sejak dulu?
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:00 pm

pasal salama ini mangkali.....

1. indada kasadaran
2. inda barani
3. majuriti masi buli dibagi gula2
4. tarasa yg malaya mmg superior dr sabah
5. majuriti yb pindik lolou
6. yb2 besikap yes bus sj
7. lolou masam ikur anjing di salah2 kangkang kaki
8. .....
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:31 am

pendapat saya , YTL sudah ter'over' dalam membuat gimik politik , dia berjaya bawa dan timbulkan , sensasikan satu isu yang hangat dan menjadi 'magnet' kepada naluri rakyat , dari segi ini memang dia bijak ..

cumanya , dia hanya berjaya 'menyentak' pada rakyat yang kurang mendapat maklumat dan info semasa , bagi rakyat yang pernah belajar dan tahu selok belok perundangan , tahu dan faham sistem pendakwaan atau prosedur sesuatu tuntutan , akan ketawa kelucuan ..

bukan mudah ! tidak semudah itu ...

kalau SAPP mahu juga buat seperti apa dorang cakap itu , bolehhh ..tapi akan memakan masa sangat lama , silap2 puluhan tahun belum tentu dapat penyelesaian dan jawapan , yg pasti tdk akan selesai dalam 10 tahun ! disamping akan membangkitkan banyak perkara lain , akan membabitkan banyak pihak lain , kalau dorang sanggup dan berkemampuan menangani kes bakal timbul , ..teruskan saja ,

ini cuma gimik politik semasa SAPP
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:02 am

saya setuju sama romeo.. bukan mudah.

Tapi..sekurang-kurang pun gimik politik ini boleh mengganggu pimpinan tertinggi persekutuan dan juga umno..sebab seperti kata romeo bukan semua orang tau selok belok perundangan. sudah pasti ada juga yg terpengaruh dgn gimik YTL.
sayangnya....kenapa YTL yg suarakan hal ini? kenapa bukan org lain yg berpengaruh tapi bukan bekas ahli BN?
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:25 pm

kalou yb bn jan haraplah barani kasi kurban periuk diurang..... ada sdh ka rispun yb2 bn pasal ni? masam bulum adakan..... sia bulum basa di srtkabar..... baru si patrik sindu, dia sukung si ytl, tp dia harap bukan gimik pulitik sj.....tp dia bukan yb bn...... dan dia sendri akan pigi london bulan 11 nt.....
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:17 am

GB Sabah....
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:03 pm

jadi ..menurut kamurang..apa perkara utama yg kita tuntut? pasal kalaupun persekutuan mau rispun sama ini suara2 minta restore tu 20 point tapi bukan juga buli tunai semua sekaligus.
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:32 pm

pikiran sia begini..... kalou sdh mmg hak, mo buat masamanapun tatap hak juga...... hak yg tertulis lg tu ada itam puti...... dlm parjanjian..... jd kalou sabah diam2 sj inda menuntut, buli juga..... tp kalou sabah bising2pun pasal salama ini inda ditunai spt yg dijanjikan, inda sala juga..... sala 1 dlm 20 puin ialah pagawai2 atau katua2 jabatan mistilah urang2 borneo sendiri.... sikarang masamana? jd kalou sabah menuntut sikarang yg pagawai2 mistilah urang sabah, sia inda nampak itu kasalaan..... sabap mmg begitu yg sapatutnya.....

kana pikir, parjanjian dulu tu antara malaya, sabah, sarawak & singapore bukan parjanjian kisil tp 1 parjanjian yg sangat sangat sangat basar..... iaitu parjanjian di mana sabah satuju bagabung mambantuk malasia..... dgn sarat2nya.....

jd kita ada pilian, samada inda mo menuntut pasal tepikir takut pederal inda rispun atau tepikir bukan juga pederal buli kasi tunai sakaligus..... ataupun sukung siapa2 yg ada usaha/subaan mo tuntut samula janji2 yg sapatutnya sdh dpt 47 taun lalu...... jan pikir samada ini ada kaitan pulitik ataupun indada kaitan lansung..... masam sia sakap, kalou sdh hak, mo buat masamanapun mmg tatap hak..... 100 taun masi tatap hak..... ini bukan sambarang janji masam bajanji bagi budak gula2 kalou dia mandi......

kanapa indada yb bn yg rispun pasal hal ini & mangatakan yg samua ini mangarut? pasal parkara ini butul & mimang butul, ada itam puti..... gimik ka bukan gimik itu hal kamudian..... tp mimang adat pulitik, satuju atau inda satuju, misti sama kapala dgn pusuk pimpinan..... kalou inda sama, kompom tindakan tata tertib...... tingu kis2 sebulum ini ada yb2 yg kana ambil tindakan..... kanapa kalou pambangkang yg sakap mo suba menuntut kita bilang gimik? kalou yb karajaan yg menuntut bukan lg gimik ka? dan..... adakah yb karajaan yg akan menuntut? kompom indada.....

dan kana pikir juga, tuntutan ini malampau ka? kalou malampau, dr dulu gabungan malasia inda satuju pasal parjanjian ini..... tp kanapa satuju? pasal janji & tuntutan in bukan suatu yg malampau...... dan kaloulah malapau, kanapa satuju sain parjanjian? takan baharap gabungan malasia saba sarawak akan lupa pasal tu parjanjian?

ada 20 puin samua..... apa lg yg tinggal sikarang? takan 1 pun inda kita buli tuntut...... sala 1 ialah pasal imigresen..... masamana pti sini sabah sikarang? kita sanang ati ka tingu2 itu pti yg bejuta bekeliaran sana luar ruma kita?
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:23 pm

ngam juga sakapan ko tuan pukutarap. kita inda hairan kanapa YTL dulu inda santuh ini hal pasal dia terpaksa ikut kapala pimpinan.
Suda jd pambangkan baru indada kakangan. inda kana tindakan disiplin pasal bukan BN suda. cuma takut ISA sj lah.. paham2 sajalah amino..kalau padas sikit taguran dan tuntutan pihak pambangkang maka BN-amuno akan tuduh urang itu sabagai manghasut lalu dikanakan tindakan atas tuduhan menghasut.

mimang palui butul bah pemimpin2 sabah. kanapa inda satu hati menuntut ditagakkan 20 poin itu?
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:14 pm

Amat menghairankan sya....masam mana perkara ini dibiarkan sedemikian rupa....atau adakah ini satu bentuk penjajahan dalam negeri sendiri.... Question
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:45 am

masamana ini dibiarkan sadamikian rupa? pasal yb2 pederal pandai butul memanipulasi negeri lain..... dan pasal yb2 sabah 'talampau pandai' sampai sanang2 dimanipulasi......
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PostSubject: Re: SAPP: Malaysia Agreement enforceable in court of law   Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:54 pm

saya sokong... teruskan...
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