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PostSubject: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:17 pm

Sejauh mana keberkesanan kaedah memikat ini?
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:23 pm

uinaaaa, bakasan tu gaman.....
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:49 am

Kalau mengikut erti kata dari tajuk itu, bermakna utk memikat seseorang..kita tidak perlu menunjukan yg kita menyukai seseorang itu..
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:15 am

tp, sia suka begini gaman..... kalou sia suka saturang2 tu, sia mimang ada sara memikatlah tu..... tp itu sjlah, sampai sikarang pun masi memikat lagi....inda habis2 memikat, hihihiiiii..... antah2 last2 berenti memikatlah nie..... Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:27 am

1) Attraction isn't a process that happens by "choice." In other words, a woman doesn't start talking to a man and say to herself "wow, this guy seems very smart and funny... just the type of guy that I've been looking for... I think I'll feel attracted to him." This has evolved to my phrase "Attraction Isn't A Choice."

2) Attraction happens at an unconscious level as an automatic EMOTIONAL response to certain cues. For men attraction usually happens in response to a beautiful face and a nice body. For women it usually happens for other reasons (although it can and does happen on
occasion for physical reasons alone).

3) Attraction does have a "logic" all of its own, complete with techniques you can learn in order to increase it.

4) When a woman feels ATTRACTION to a man, she will do things that seem to be completely illogical, irrational, and even against her best interests in order to be with the man who is the object of her desires. If you're a guy that is stuck in the idea that a woman "should" feel attracted to a "nice guy", then your first step is to open your eyes, and take a look around at some of the OBVIOUS patterns that are hidden right in PLAIN SIGHT around you.
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:30 am

You must remember that attractive women are being approached all the time by guys who are kissing up to them. You must be something different. You must be entertaining but not goofy, confident but not so much that you appear insecure, and most importantly totally in control of yourself and the situation.
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:30 am

pukutarap wrote:
tp, sia suka begini gaman..... kalou sia suka saturang2 tu, sia mimang ada sara memikatlah tu..... tp itu sjlah, sampai sikarang pun masi memikat lagi....inda habis2 memikat, hihihiiiii..... antah2 last2 berenti memikatlah nie..... Crying or Very sad
lucu kau ni pukutarap... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:31 am

Oppss ada perempuan kah sini..nah malu sudah saya mau sambung..
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:34 am

1) There are a lot of guys who are average looking, average height, average income, etc. who have ABOVE average success with women.

2) The "nicest" guys aren't usually the ones that women are attracted to.

3) There are a lot of men who are truly "bad boys" who get FAR more than their share of women.

4) We humans, for the most part, are not in control of our "attraction mechanisms"... in other words, when we are attracted to someone else, it takes control of us and there's NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:34 am

orud wrote:
1) Attraction isn't a process that happens by "choice." In other words, a woman doesn't start talking to a man and say to herself "wow, this guy seems very smart and funny... just the type of guy that I've been looking for... I think I'll feel attracted to him." This has evolved to my phrase "Attraction Isn't A Choice."

2) Attraction happens at an unconscious level as an automatic EMOTIONAL response to certain cues. For men attraction usually happens in response to a beautiful face and a nice body. For women it usually happens for other reasons (although it can and does happen on
occasion for physical reasons alone).


3) Attraction does have a "logic" all of its own, complete with techniques you can learn in order to increase it.

4) When a woman feels ATTRACTION to a man, she will do things that seem to be completely illogical, irrational, and even against her best interests in order to be with the man who is the object of her desires. If you're a guy that is stuck in the idea that a woman "should" feel attracted to a "nice guy", then your first step is to open your eyes, and take a look around at some of the OBVIOUS patterns that are hidden right in PLAIN SIGHT around you.
i agree with the no.2, for men they are looking for beautiful face and body only...
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:36 am

Mesti saya dapat hujah balas memberansangkan dari perempuan ini nanti..

Apa2 hal kau tulung saya nanti niche.. hihihi.
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:40 am

but this is why men and women can be paired, i.e. husband & wife... if women or men are looking for handsome/beautiful face only, then definitely many many many people will not get partners... especially the ugly ones...
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:44 am

gaman, ikut point si niche, kalou parampuan pun mo tingu muka hensem sj, garanti muka masam kao mimang indada parampuan suka, hihihihiii.... membujanglah kao sampai tua.....
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:44 am

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:45 am

emmmmeemmmmmm..... kalou muka masam sia mgkin masam ok sikit....
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:45 am

Ia butul gaman..ndak hensem bah saya ini..hihihi..
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:53 am

jan risau gaman, kao sendiri yg bilang parampuan inda tingu muka, mgkin dia akan tepikat sanyuman mangancam kao yg membunuh, hihihiiii.....
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:54 am

orud wrote:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. Very Happy

Sa setuju dengan ayat si orud ni...subjektif bah ni barang.....macam macam kita buleh cakap....
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:03 am

orud wrote:
1) There are a lot of guys who are average looking, average height, average income, etc. who have ABOVE average success with women.

2) The "nicest" guys aren't usually the ones that women are attracted to.

3) There are a lot of men who are truly "bad boys" who get FAR more than their share of women.

4) We humans, for the most part, are not in control of our "attraction mechanisms"... in other words, when we are attracted to someone else, it takes control of us and there's NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.



~~~1) There are a lot of guys who are average looking, average height, average income, etc. who have ABOVE average success with women.~~ heheheee..



~~~ 2) The "nicest" guys aren't usually the ones that women are attracted to. ~~ Razz ..betul betul betul...
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:39 am

saya setuju... tp kamu ada ideakah kenapa begitu?
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:24 am

Puas sa berkapel ni...sa kasi banding yg 'nicest' sama yang 'badboy'...yg 'nicest' pandai melencong kadang2..macam kucing nampak ikan ...main ayat ayat segala..yang 'badboy' apa yg ko nampak luaran durang tida smestinya macam tu...durang ni lebih berfikiran jauh daripada yg nicest ni....
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:29 am

nicest ini kadang2 macam spoil bah.
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:34 am

Sa pernah jadi budak baik dan pernah jadi budak nakal...jadi kawan2 pun tergolong dlm dua kumpulan tu...yg baik ni, sumtime makan dalam..yg nakal, ko buleh baca terus perangai durang yg sebenar..
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:40 pm

monkey wrote:
Puas sa berkapel ni...sa kasi banding yg 'nicest' sama yang 'badboy'...yg 'nicest' pandai melencong kadang2..macam kucing nampak ikan ...main ayat ayat segala..yang 'badboy' apa yg ko nampak luaran durang tida smestinya macam tu...durang ni lebih berfikiran jauh daripada yg nicest ni....
tp yg badboy, bukankah diurang ni turus main 'direct' sj, kao inda mau pun diurang mau juga..... in the first place, kanapa diurang kana sap badboy?
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PostSubject: Re: Attraction is'nt a choice?   Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:54 pm

niche wrote:
saya setuju... tp kamu ada ideakah kenapa begitu?

i found this article somewhere:

Why Girl Attracted to Bad Boys

Q. I understand that females want men who care, who bond with them and make them feel special, but I have seen a lot of women who respect "bad boys" more than they do a guy who is romantic. In other words, the nice romantic guy does all that work and the player plays with the girl and ends up with her !!! I always see this.


A. A bad boy is attractive to a woman because he is exciting and unpredictable, and a wimp or a typical nice guy is perfect all the time, but is boring. So, the real question for you to examine is how can you be an exciting, passionate man without having to be a jerk in the process. It means make things exciting with a woman, not predictable.

When you do something nice for a woman, you are applying what behaviorists call "reinforcement." Intuitively, "bad boys" know all about this. A "reinforcement" is a reward something that feels good that the subject gets for performing a certain behavior or for having a certain feeling. For instance, giving a dog a treat when he comes to you when you call his name reinforces the behavior of coming when you call. In time, the dog will look forward to coming when you call, because he knows that obeying you will mean he'll get a reinforcement that he likes.

The thing to know is that if you give the dog a treat every single time he comes when you call, he'll start to get lazy. He'll figure, "Eh, why should I hurry? I can get over there in my own good time, and take the treat." Constant reinforcement stops being effective after a while.

You may have noticed this in your own relationships. Have you ever had someone who consistently goes out of his or her way to make you feel special? Suppose that one morning, out of the blue, someone at your work place brought you a cup of excellent coffee when you first sat down at your desk. You'd probably feel pretty special, and you'd be happy to see that person later in the day. You would have associated seeing that person with the good feelings you got from the gift.

But now imagine if that person brought you coffee every single day, like clockwork, and never missed a day. At first you'd probably appreciate it, then you'd notice it less, then you'd hardly notice it at all. You might even start complaining when the coffee wasn't exactly the way you liked it, or get angry if he or she missed a day. You'd naturally go from being delighted by the constant gifts to seeing them as a regular part of life, or even as something you intrinsically deserve. This is a natural reaction to constant, unvarying reinforcement.

If you constantly shower a woman with gifts and attention, you run the risk of the same thing happening. At first, it's important to reinforce a woman constantly; it gets her in the habit of being happy about seeing you. But after a while, if your gifts and attention are going to stay effective, you must start bestowing them a little more irregularly. This is what behavior experts call a "variable schedule of reinforcement." You don't give her flowers every week, or every date. You don't always have a little gift for her. You don't always show up to flirt with her at the same time, or on the same day. You vary your schedule of making her feel extra-good, and thus keep the interaction exciting and fresh for her.


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